• agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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    19 days ago

    That’s why I think a safe-but-amenable ticket header like Walz works best. We get the benefit of base activation since she’s still on the ticket, without fully exposing ourselves to the biases against her.

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      19 days ago

      No one gives a fuck who the VP is. JD Vance proves that pretty effectively but so did your own suggestion of Walz. He just was VP and it didn’t do shit for Harris.

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        19 days ago

        On the contrary, I was one of many who breathed a little easier voting for Harris because he was on the ticket. The general wisdom is you choose a VP that scoops demographics that the ticket head misses. Just because you don’t care doesn’t mean no one does. I’m sure Vance scooped a couple shy demographics for Trump.

        I like Walz. My leftist Minnesotan friends like Walz. He’s a likeable guy, he seems remarkably leftist for his demographic, which is the highly electable “old white dude”. The people who care about VPs will care that it’s AOC, and the people who don’t will see a friendly, straight-shootin’ white dude. Have a sense of strategy for Marx’s sake.

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          19 days ago

          Sure, that’s the conventional wisdom but it seems like you’re missing that this is quite literally exactly what they said about Walz and Harris and we already know how that played out. I’m not sure how many times we have to do this the safe way before people start to understand that the safe option isn’t what people want.

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            19 days ago

            this is quite literally exactly what they said about Walz and Harris

            Howso? That’s not what I saw at all.

            I’m not sure how many times we have to do this the safe way before people start to understand that the safe option isn’t what people want.

            It is what most people want. There is a fraction of a percent of the population who wants the exact same outcome as you. Most of them just wanna mind their own business and try to be a good neighbor.

            You’re not going to radicalize 80 million people. Until the electoral mechanism is changed, you’re going to have to find the 80 million voter bloc that offends you the least and caucus with them.