I saw this post titled “Scratch a anti-harm reductionist and a fascist bleeds” (https://lemmy.world/post/33320759)
I commented that “harm reduction” apparently means sending billions in weapons to israel while they commit genocide and shutting down campus protests speaking out against that genocide. I said that seemed pretty fascist to me.
Within an instant, they downvoted my post and banned me. Guess it’s my fault for posting in a circlejerk community, but I’m still scratching my head on how that makes me a tankie. Something tells me this mod would be calling in the tanks to suppress any dissent if they could.
Looks like @PugJesus@lemmy.world has been going on a rampage against people who are critical of Israel lately, PTB for sure.
@goat@sh.itjust.works Might want to kick this mod out of your community since he’s poisoning it for others and kicking out people he shouldn’t be.
Yeah it’s not a good look that Tankie now means “I don’t like genocide”. Just further dissolves the word’s meaning and enables .ml and hexbear to do more things.
It’s what it’s meant on lemmy, particularly .world, for a while now. centrists just use it like (other) republicans use “woke.”
It means “this person has an opinion I know I’m morally wrong about. I don’t want to change my position but I also don’t want to look bad, so I’ll pick a term I can’t define and use it as a cudgel against them.”
I’ve been called a Tankie for wanting the Democrats to support trans rights to win against Trump.
Means nothing in 2025.
What things are we malevolent tankies going to do, aside from voicing our opinions in the fediverse? Enforce authoritarian bedtime?
I wish you would because I’ll never get to bed at a reasonable hour otherwise.
Making us sound so nefarious, and I’m only a little evil. The word tankie has definitely been getting worn out to the point of being the centrist equivalent of chuds calling people “woke”
That’s a bit reductionist
But only a bit.
Well when people get banned for being anti-genocide and war as “Tankie” what does it mean?
It means that someone is being allowed to mod who shouldn’t be.
I don’t know, I didn’t ban anyone for that reason. I’ve since unbanned the users who were banned for those reasons and have cleared the air with Pug that this is inappropriate moderation.
Hope he learns this lesson but don’t expect him to forgive you or anyone else for it.
Oh no!
I’ll investigate later, thanks for the ping. I’ve since unbanned some of the users, such as @hark@lemmy.world, the others I’m still investigating and some are also spam
I’m fine with people sharing different views, even if they’re controversial. Tankies are also allowed to comment in the community, as long as everyone follows the rules and is mutually respectful towards each other, feel free to engage.
Wasn’t gonna bother until after I saw this, but looks like PJ gave me a ban for clarifying UN reporting on sexual assault.
Didn’t think I was posting anything spicy but you never know the crowd.
That sounds like .word mods, banning people for proving them wrong.
Yea, seems likely
That bucket guy said ‘rape of Jews on October 7th was widespread’, and the ‘widespread’ part fucking got to me.
Not that it’s a huge difference but I couldn’t stand that guy running around citing that UN report that said it found ‘reasonable grounds to believe sexual violence occurred’, which is a fucking far cry from ‘rape was widespread’
But, if I were to be charitable, i could see a mod coming in cold to that conversation just assuming the worst. But im pretty sure it was pug, if the ‘sort by mod’ function is accurate.
It most likely is, check this community. He’s banned people for calling him out on unrelated communities .
Pug is mentally unwell and lashes out at people wanting something better in the world.
I’ve had some heated exchanges with pug in the past but this is the first time I can say for sure he’s moderated me, and for something extraordinarily tame.
The genociders have produced zero evidence for any rape.
Except their own OC
If only that actually mattered.
truth matters
The banhammer is a disagree button.
The majority of bans in meanwhileongrad are temporary with the exception of trolls and alt accounts
You were banned for using semantic arguments that rapes occurred.
The UN is not a judicial body and cannot unilaterally define criminal offences within sovereign states. The UN can, however, assist and fund independent bodies to investigate, which found reasonable grounds that Hamas raped women during the 7th of October massacres.
You can even watch some footage, testimonies of victims and witnesses, first-responder testimonies, and captured terrorist testimonies about these rapes.
So arguing that the UN wasn’t verbatim with what the user, @PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au, said is a bad-faith position to take, it’s handwaving away that the rapes occurred and implying that the UN is a judicial body.
Basing the entirety of your argument on ‘Well, not ALL of them were raped’ is a pretty disgusting stance that handwaves atrocities, which is in violation of the Apologia and Revisionism rule. Your ban was made permanent, and you weren’t warned beforehand, which I’m not happy with, so I can unban you within 24 hours if you so desire and if you follow the rules in the future.
I’m also not interested in arguing about the validity of the rapes either because it’s not relevant to the thread at hand.
I was addressing someone saying that ‘rapes of jewish women were widespread’, which to my ears is an unfounded characterization of a report which went to great lengths not to say anything half as definitive. If anyone in that thread was guilty of apologia or revisionism, it sure as fuck wasn’t me.
But you’re right, this isn’t the place to argue about it. Do what you want.
I’ll unban ya since you weren’t given a warning
By the way if Lemmy-UI doesn’t let you remove the mod, use photon or Tesseract to do it.
@hark@lemmy.world , could you maybe add a “ban reserved” or something in the title?
Why? The ban was reversed by a different person. Edit to the main post would be more appropriate if anything. His main point stands, PJ is unhinged.
Hm, good point
Lately?
This is the second post in a row here about his actions.
Idk, if he didn’t kick our pj before why would goat do it now.
Pug and I had a falling out, and he stepped down but retained his moderator role. If you check the modlog you can see he hasn’t acted in quite a while until just recently
Why not remove him if he’s causing more issues for you?
I’ll consider it
Having an unhinged narcissist as a mod is not ideal for any community.
Honestly my bet is PJ is kept on the team despite all of this.
He’s been removed
Awesome! Glad to hear I was wrong then.
I agree, and I’m sure you’re as critical of Davel as you are as Pug.
No idea who Davel is but I have seen numerous bans by PugJesus recently for made up reasons. Usually “tankie” etiquette, by which he means anyone left of center, quite literally. Sometimes “sexual assault denier” by which he means people disagreeing with Israeli propaganda lies. To makes it worse he bans in unrelated communities because someone disagreed with him.
He is not capable of being a moderator.
Davel, who is an admin, does the exact same and is in this very thread.
Removed by mod