Both Vivaldi and Brave have working adblockers on iOS while Firefox does not. This is not WebKit’s fault, shouldn’t be an issue for Firefox mobile developers to implement.
Also simply compatibility, some sites just don’t work (or dont work well) on Firefox or librewolf, thats one key reason I go back to brave for a lot of things.
Agreed, but I also have work to do. On my personal PC at home I use librewolf, as for most casual browsing its fine.
But the question was why do people use brave over Firefox and my answer simply is cos it doesn’t have the functionality i need. I dunno about your boss but if I say to mine “I didn’t do my job cos my browser of choice doesn’t work” I don’t reckon I’ll stay employed for long.
Relatedly, does anyone know if there’s a public list of sites that don’t work (properly or at all) in Firefox somewhere? A quick (non-Google) web search doesn’t seem to turn one up. If I was working at Mozilla, that would be the kind of database I might be interested in making a public resource. And I don’t mean as part of the Bug Tracker, though links between the two for legitimate problems could be useful, I guess.
Something with a very basic interface that has an offending site name, how it doesn’t work, perhaps why, and what, if anything, Mozilla can do about it. In short simple sentences. One per offending site in 16pt text. And a search feature for when it runs to the hundreds.
It could be something like:
[favicon/logo] example.com - Outright states that it will not support Firefox. Mozilla cannot do anything about this. Complain to Example Inc.
[favicon/logo] example.net - interface is buggy in Firefox. Site misuses web standards in a way incompatible with Firefox’s renderer. We are looking into this. <Link to bug tracker here>
[favicon/logo] example.org - interface does not load. Site uses non-standard Google-only CSS properties. We are looking into this, but you could also contact The Example Organisation to ask them to review their CSS.
etc.
I’ve not had any problems with the handful of sites I use, at least not outside of something caused by browser security or add-ons which I eventually figured out how to fix.
That said, I’ve probably forgotten a handful I just straight up refused to visit again when they didn’t work and now they’re not in my regular rotation any more, so I don’t notice.
This doesn’t solve your same browser issue, but just fyi the browser “Orion” on iOS supports full browser extensions. Its developed by the company that runs the Kagi search engine
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I thought all browsers on iOS were just wrappers for the same engine (webkit?), so they really can’t do much there.
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Both Vivaldi and Brave have working adblockers on iOS while Firefox does not. This is not WebKit’s fault, shouldn’t be an issue for Firefox mobile developers to implement.
Conversely, no browser but Firefox supports ad blocking (and other) addons on Android.
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But it is not addon support
Also simply compatibility, some sites just don’t work (or dont work well) on Firefox or librewolf, thats one key reason I go back to brave for a lot of things.
They won’t make it compatible if they don’t have Firefox users.
Agreed, but I also have work to do. On my personal PC at home I use librewolf, as for most casual browsing its fine.
But the question was why do people use brave over Firefox and my answer simply is cos it doesn’t have the functionality i need. I dunno about your boss but if I say to mine “I didn’t do my job cos my browser of choice doesn’t work” I don’t reckon I’ll stay employed for long.
Fair enough.
I genuinely have not seen a site that doesn’t work on Firefox in years. Probably five or more. Can you think of an example off the top of your head?
Several sites/web apps I use for work. And my bank is another one that immediately comes to mind.
Name and shame them. Send them a complaint.
Relatedly, does anyone know if there’s a public list of sites that don’t work (properly or at all) in Firefox somewhere? A quick (non-Google) web search doesn’t seem to turn one up. If I was working at Mozilla, that would be the kind of database I might be interested in making a public resource. And I don’t mean as part of the Bug Tracker, though links between the two for legitimate problems could be useful, I guess.
Something with a very basic interface that has an offending site name, how it doesn’t work, perhaps why, and what, if anything, Mozilla can do about it. In short simple sentences. One per offending site in 16pt text. And a search feature for when it runs to the hundreds.
It could be something like: [favicon/logo] example.com - Outright states that it will not support Firefox. Mozilla cannot do anything about this. Complain to Example Inc. [favicon/logo] example.net - interface is buggy in Firefox. Site misuses web standards in a way incompatible with Firefox’s renderer. We are looking into this. <Link to bug tracker here> [favicon/logo] example.org - interface does not load. Site uses non-standard Google-only CSS properties. We are looking into this, but you could also contact The Example Organisation to ask them to review their CSS. etc.
I’ve not had any problems with the handful of sites I use, at least not outside of something caused by browser security or add-ons which I eventually figured out how to fix.
That said, I’ve probably forgotten a handful I just straight up refused to visit again when they didn’t work and now they’re not in my regular rotation any more, so I don’t notice.
There are no ads in my Firefox. Is it because of DNS?
Perhaps if you tell us which DNS you are using.
Pihole
Yes, Pi-hole helps, it is not as good as an inbuilt adblocker or a more capable one like Ublock Origin, but it is better than nothing :)
UBo is insane. I don’t think I have ever seen a more useful piece of software.
This doesn’t solve your same browser issue, but just fyi the browser “Orion” on iOS supports full browser extensions. Its developed by the company that runs the Kagi search engine