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Cake day: June 13th, 2023

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  • To anybody concerned: don’t engage with .world communities. Instead, bring your traffic to similar communities on other instances. The ability to do this is one of the main points of federation, and .world with its shitty moderation holds way too much sway in the (let’s be honest) still-tiny threadiverse.

    It’s easiest to do this, on Lemmy at least, by blocking .world as an instance. Doing so won’t block .world users commenting elsewhere, although when Lemmy 1.0 ships you’ll have that option too. But blocking .world forces you to build a vibrant thriving threadiverse elsewhere without a too-large and too-problematic instance siphoning away any of your traffic and growing even larger as a result. I do this, and I don’t feel I’m missing out by doing so.




  • It’s probably two factors:

    • I find .ml users on the whole much less annoying than .world users on the whole
    • I have some respect for deliberately choosing to run a social site with a dictatorial hand even if I don’t agree with how it’s done in .ml’s case. I’ve seen it done well in a few cases, and ran an internet BBS myself that way for about a decade and it worked.

    Edit: I misunderstood which subthread this was in reply to, but as mentioned elsewhere in the comments here I block .world while not blocking .ml, which provides some context to the above.


  • The way I look at it - people’s inclination when they search up a community and find 5 roughly equivalent ones is to go where the traffic is. That’s mine too. Often .world has the traffic due to network effect advantage. However, since (in my opinion) the moderation there sucks and a lot of the users are fresh off the boat from reddit and haven’t sufficiently detoxed, I both don’t want it in my feed, and want 100% of the little bit of traffic I contribute to go toward building up communities elsewhere. That way when the next person comes along looking for alternatives, there are fewer tumbleweeds and maybe over time we get something going completely independent of .world.

    I also do this with .ml and lemmygrad but to a lesser extent. I don’t block those two like I do .world because I find their users less obnoxious on the whole and am a lot closer to their politics than I am to .world style BlueMAGA. But I do preferentially subscribe to and post in communities elsewhere unless there is no alternative, because I don’t like what I’ve seen of the overall moderation style.

    I also do this on microblogging fedi, the main example being that I block the Bluesky bridge and filter posts with Bluesky content out of my timeline so as not to boost or interact with them. It’s akin to “vote with your dollars.” I don’t want Bluesky’s rancid BlueMAGA vibe polluting our little swimming pool so I don’t contribute to it.

    As another user pointed out, some communities exist only on .world. I am willing to forego those and either live without until ones pop up elsewhere, or do the work of setting them up (only one so far, but I have a lot of irl problems so I choose carefully when creating a comm). This is definitely not the right choice for everyone but I am highly motivated to promote what I see as the health of the ActivityPub fediverse, and more smaller instances rather than fewer bigger ones is a primary goal of mine.

    I’ve been on ActivityPub fedi since its inception, mostly on the microblogging side til recently when I decided to get serious about no longer slumming on reddit. This place has been balkanized since the beginning, and there is a huge history of drama on microblogging fedi to go with that, just like the threadi drama that goes on over here today. People bemoan the fracturing all the time, and I didn’t like it at first, but now I see it as a feature. The main part that sucks is that there’s never been a good way for noobs to find their “neighborhood” to start out, so (in the Latin alphabet bloc) everybody starts on mastodon.social or lemmy.world which isn’t good for overall fedi health, and we lose a lot of users who didn’t start off in a “neighborhood” that agrees with them.

    On microblogging fedi there is the mainstream Mastodon bloc, the rabid SJW Mastodon bloc, the federates-with-most-everyone bloc which isn’t really a bloc, the Japanese and Chinese blocs, probably also the Spanish speaking bloc although they mostly all speak English too, “Dark Fedi” which includes conservatives as well as normies exiled from the mainstream/SJW Mastodon blocs for questioning leftist dogma, the edgelord bloc which mostly only talks to Dark Fedi, and the pedo bloc (hate to say it but it exists and that’s what you get with an open standard).

    The threadiverse is a lot smaller for now, so it seems to mostly balkanize at the instance level apart from the commie bloc and maybe the LGBT+ bloc. I’ve been here a lot less time though so I’m sure there is nuance I’m missing.




    1. Interacting with communities on .world was your first mistake. Misreading the rules was your second. FWIW I’ve blocked all .world communities and my experience of the threadiverse is just fine, it’s definitely doable.

    2. Maybe I should just start a politics community here that’s based on some sort of rational discussion.

      Yes, do this. Having multiple similar communities as fallback for routing around shitty mods, etc, is half the point of the threadiverse.