I’m not complaining about you not l liking the song i straight up said that and you even quoted me. Wtf kinda crazy pills are you on if you cant see that?

Im sorry that I didnt notice the times of posts. I also slept, and responded when i woke up. Apologies for that.

You keep repeating that im not addressing what the song is about. Yes very much that is entirely and solely what im addressing.

If you dont stop repeating the same wrong thing, then dont be surprised when you keep being told the same thing.

You refuse to accept that your interpertion is flawed. As indicated by disputing other peoples arguments with evidence from a movie that the song predates. Thats not historical context, its a simple timeline. Im establishing a time line. Thats a very normal thing to do. Ita not bad faith. Explain why im wrong because ive explained why your argument had problems. This is a big one of them

YOU specifically related scenes in a movie as evidence of meaning to the song. Thats the problem.

Also i read the article from the post i copied. Its not just a quote from the song writers song addressing this. Let it be known the only value of that article in my opinion is the explanation from the song writers kid. The commentary in the article by the writer on that page is bad.

I actually just copied someone else’s post because you accused someone if ignoring something while completely ignoring this person’s post. You are a hypocrite who can’t seem to accept that words mean different things in different contexts. You are hung up on how we perceive things today and not the world as it was at the time this work was created.

Do you know that the phrase “hey what’s in this drink” was an excuse to do things you wanted to do but were not supposed to do.

You keep referring to a movie that used this song. And it’s fine to argue that the scenes in the movie reflect a woman who doesn’t want to be there, but this song is not that movie, however much you want it to be your smoking gun.

This song predates that movie. By more than 5 years. That movie, as an explanation of the meaning of this song is absolutely meaningless, yet it is the thing you are focused on.

You aren’t listening because you are stuck on something that isn’t true and are absolutely refusing to listen to any other point.

You argue like ken ham does.

I’ve already stopped posting that person’s comment on your posts btw. I posted it s few times only to get your attention on it. I will go delete those unless there are replies.

The world is not an easy place to understand. You are trying to make something fit your worldview and while there is no reason you need to like this song, or want to understand it so that it no longer bothers you, i take great exception, given the US putting a convicted felon who was in bed with Jeffrey fucking Epstein and Putin, to seeing refuse to accept reality in favour their view of the world.

Baby it’s cold outside is now a song that is only a problem for ignorant people who arent informed enough, are willfully ignorant.

Women matter. Black lives matter. It’s important to understand where problems actually exist.

Its okay to be botherer by this song, it has an imagery that is hard not to see and misunderstand by todays standards and sensibilities. Not because the problematic behaviour of the past, such as presented in the movie you wont stop refering to, but because everyone in that era had to work around problematic behaviour. People had to be clever to be who they were in a way that is very different from today

You are ignoring what you don’t want to hear.

The song predates that by five years. https://www.goretro.com/2016/12/why-baby-its-cold-outside-is-not-about.html?m=1

Frank Loesser’s son, John, was interviewed about the song by the Palm Bean Post in 2010 that was reprinted on the official site for his dad. From the article:

“My father wrote that song as a piece of special material for he and my mother to do at parties,” says John Loesser, who runs the Lyric Theatre in Stuart, and is the son of legendary composer Frank Loesser (Guys and Dolls, How To Succeed In Business Without Really Trying.)

Frank Loesser’s wife, Lynn, was a nightclub singer who had moved from Terre Haute, Ind. to New York in search of a career. She was singing in a nightclub when she met Frank Loesser around 1930.

The song itself was written in 1944, when Loesser and his wife had just moved into the Hotel Navarro in New York. They gave a housewarming party for themselves and when they did the number, everybody went crazy.

“We had to do it over and over again,” Lynn Loesser told her kids, “and we became instant parlor room stars.”

Performers started to take note of the song, and record covers of it. It’s also featured in the 1949 musical comedy Neptune’s Daughter as sung by Ricardo Montalbán and Esther Williams below. And in that movie, it takes an ironic tone since the movie takes place in a warm climate. It also earned Loesser an Academy Award for Best Original Song.

The song predates that by five years. https://www.goretro.com/2016/12/why-baby-its-cold-outside-is-not-about.html?m=1

Frank Loesser’s son, John, was interviewed about the song by the Palm Bean Post in 2010 that was reprinted on the official site for his dad. From the article:

“My father wrote that song as a piece of special material for he and my mother to do at parties,” says John Loesser, who runs the Lyric Theatre in Stuart, and is the son of legendary composer Frank Loesser (Guys and Dolls, How To Succeed In Business Without Really Trying.)

Frank Loesser’s wife, Lynn, was a nightclub singer who had moved from Terre Haute, Ind. to New York in search of a career. She was singing in a nightclub when she met Frank Loesser around 1930.

The song itself was written in 1944, when Loesser and his wife had just moved into the Hotel Navarro in New York. They gave a housewarming party for themselves and when they did the number, everybody went crazy.

“We had to do it over and over again,” Lynn Loesser told her kids, “and we became instant parlor room stars.”

Performers started to take note of the song, and record covers of it. It’s also featured in the 1949 musical comedy Neptune’s Daughter as sung by Ricardo Montalbán and Esther Williams below. And in that movie, it takes an ironic tone since the movie takes place in a warm climate. It also earned Loesser an Academy Award for Best Original Song.

The song predates that by five years. https://www.goretro.com/2016/12/why-baby-its-cold-outside-is-not-about.html?m=1

Frank Loesser’s son, John, was interviewed about the song by the Palm Bean Post in 2010 that was reprinted on the official site for his dad. From the article:

“My father wrote that song as a piece of special material for he and my mother to do at parties,” says John Loesser, who runs the Lyric Theatre in Stuart, and is the son of legendary composer Frank Loesser (Guys and Dolls, How To Succeed In Business Without Really Trying.)

Frank Loesser’s wife, Lynn, was a nightclub singer who had moved from Terre Haute, Ind. to New York in search of a career. She was singing in a nightclub when she met Frank Loesser around 1930.

The song itself was written in 1944, when Loesser and his wife had just moved into the Hotel Navarro in New York. They gave a housewarming party for themselves and when they did the number, everybody went crazy.

“We had to do it over and over again,” Lynn Loesser told her kids, “and we became instant parlor room stars.”

Performers started to take note of the song, and record covers of it. It’s also featured in the 1949 musical comedy Neptune’s Daughter as sung by Ricardo Montalbán and Esther Williams below. And in that movie, it takes an ironic tone since the movie takes place in a warm climate. It also earned Loesser an Academy Award for Best Original Song.

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As long as the new keyboard app doesnt need twerking…that would be a very weird app

This game sounds awesome

I had let kept less aggressive

You seem to have an autocorrect disease, please seek treatment before brains are broken and you can no longer be understood.

(Meant to be funny)

Just watched the intro. I’m not really on board with the eugenics angle even after watching it. It’s more social darwinism than eugenics.

Eugenicists as ive always thought of it is an intended or active pursuit of creating “better” humans(or whatever species).

One factor I see being a difference between natural selection and unnatural selection. Unnatural selection being eugenics, and natural selection being what a result of an environment having an effect on the evolution of a species.

The intro Primarily sets a path of one group having more children than the other group and i will concede it the intelligent couple having problems having kids misrepresents the rest of the movie while still giving the audience a vehicle to how the future they wanted to craft could happen. And it also is meant to be entertainment not just exposition.

Would be very interested in an in depth response from Mike Judge and the rest of the filmakers. Would be an interesting use of AI/Deepfake to redo the intro if it actually wasnt intended to invoke a eugenic view of the future

Not at all how I see it. It’s not eugenics its education, well the lack there of, that made the world in idiocracy.

I feel that is like me failing to understand why pinaeapple on pizza offends many people?

That is wonderously harmful evil, thanks for sharing. Im slightly worried im going to start noticing that asso-she-ate pronoun-she-ation.

Time will tell!

Another user pointed out a pronunciation that helps. Some accents pronounce the H in words more than others, “an 'istorical” does trigger whatever my brain does with the hard H after an.

Also Lacking the ability myself, I only have respect for people that speak more than one language.

Absolutely no need for an apology friend. Its very much a regional thing as well. But having this discussion im sure someone will learn something they didnt know about the world so in a way, we are by having this discussion helping people learn, and i think its good to learn even if its only useful to others witnessing this discussion

Not according to my english teachers, but thats a different discussion and not why I responded

My english teachers taught it and enforcing it might be why, but it strikes a nerve when i hear it. Not sure why its just uncomfortable to process when i hear it (and i “hear” what im reading in my internal voice. As i understand it not everyone has an internal voice, similar to aphantasia)

I don’t like how much sense that makes.

But i also am thankful for the framing of it that way cause i think it will stick in my head when I’m reading and be a salve to seeing it spelled out on a page so thanks… Jerk (in a friendly way)

Edit: spelling

I welcome your punishment. It is well deserved

Hows your project going these days, oh is moistly done now

“An Historical”

This makes my skin crawl. I imagine its what people who hate the word moist feel.

Did you know 3M stands for MOIST MOIST MOIST

Not sorry