Correct me if I’m wrong. I read ActivityPub standards and dug a little into lemmy sources to understand how federation works. And I’m a bit disappointed. Every server just has a cache and the ability to fetch something from another known server. So if you start your own instance, there is no profit for the whole network until you have a significant piece of auditory (e.g. private instances or servers with no users). Are there any “balancers” to utilize these empty instances? Should we promote (or create in the first place) a way how to passively help lemmy with such fast growth?

  • Ataraxia@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Well one instance shouldn’t monopolize a community. If it takes a dump on one instance at least it exists elsewhere. If I want to start up my own cat community I don’t see why that’s an issue.

    • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.comEnglish
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      1 year ago

      I agree, I don’t particularly see this as an actual issue… Nothing stops you from subscribing to both.

      Just like there could be a saik0@gmail.com and a saik0@yahoo.com. Nobody is confused with emails when it comes to this… The difference is that it’s slightly more work than reddit because r/aww is one particular thing and it’s assumed we’re talking about Reddit because of it’s unique format. Here it’s just c/aww on lemmy.ml, but that’s a bit of the point of the !aww@lemmy.ml structure of naming.

      I LOVE that there’s !aww@lemmy.ml and !aww@lemmy.world. Different communities ran by different groups will end up with different content. Then I can shop for the content I want myself.

      Nobody can singularly own the name. I always found that to be a big problem on reddit. r/trees comes to mind, if there was an actual arborist community that want r/trees, well they were fucked. And that’s kind of jacked. This way it doesn’t matter. Just pick a different instance that doesn’t already have c/trees and post there… or better, start your own instance to host it.

      I don’t know… in the future people could even start up instances of lemmy on domains like lemmy.jobs, lemmy.help or lemmy.hobby to aggregate major communities based on topics. lemmy.jobs for instance could be an instance that houses professional the arborist and the domain would make it clear the intent. Or even better… drop the lemmy all together and register jobs.social or similarly descriptive domain names.

      I know we’re all a hodge-podge of domains now because a lot of us are just spinning up instance on domains we already have… but the potential is there.

      • Master@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 year ago

        This problem existed on reddit too still. You have r/games r/game r/gamers r/gamenews r/gamernews etc. All trying to do the exact same thing.

        • coalbus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 year ago

          I think this comment convinced me. Because you’re right, on Reddit there were always offshoot communities that were essentially the same exact thing just of different sizes and run by different people. There’ll probably always be the “most popular” one, and then several offshoots for the same topic but perhaps a better sense of community because it’s hundreds or thousands of users vs millions or tens of millions of users.

          Remembering the exact instance and community name combinations will take a little extra effort, but not significantly and subscribing negates that mostly.

          • haxasaur@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            1 year ago

            The one that pissed me off a lot is the misspelling of r/politcs trying to mimic r/politics. And i messaged the mods asking why they existed and was just either oblivious or trolled with their answer of “to talk politics”.

            • WalrusByte@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              1 year ago

              Took me forever to realize I was subscribed to an r/mildlyinteresting and an r/mildyinteresting. Just figured they were the same thing and didn’t affect me much.

      • SickIcarus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        1 year ago

        r/trees comes to mind, if there was an actual arborist community that want r/trees, well they were fucked.

        There was. They ended up with, I think, /r/marijuana_enthusiasts or something like that. It was quite funny to both sides, at least it was like 15 years ago.

      • Toribor@corndog.ukEnglish
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        1 year ago

        I’m not sure how this would work, but what about the concept of cross-instance communities. For users it would be a bit like a multi-reddit where you group various communities together into one aggregate list but when posting content you’d have to choose which instance it lands on. Mods would have to agree on a set of rules (and you’d have some communities split off due to differences), but otherwise it seems somewhat plausible.

        That would be one way to solve the problem of every instance having a version of one specific type of community.

      • Ataraxia@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 year ago

        Yup. I think it’s fun and it makes me explore more. Makes me check out different instances and actually actively look for things I like instead of passive doomscrolling.