• JungleJim@sh.itjust.works
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    There are absolutely awful homeschooling parents out there but it really is up to the home in question doing the schooling. My Mom would, every semester, find text books covering the topics you normally have in school, and then some, and make a weekly plan out of it. I was given the plan, the books, and an essay to have written about topics presented by the end of the week. It was encouraged to cross topics, so for example I might read Tom Sawyer, then read a history book about the real steamships that were on the Mississippi, then the steam power that moved the ships and the science behind that. Not every parent can or will do that, but I just mean to say like, not all homeschooling parents are making antisocial disorganized idiots with no work ethic. I’m only anticisocial and disorganized.

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      Yea the people in this thread who think homeschooling should be banned have no idea what they’re talking about. If I’d gone to public school as a kid I would’ve gotten bullied for being neurodivergent and being an atheist in a very mormon place; I would’ve gotten fed conservative mormon propaganda; and would’ve either had teachers that wouldn’t know how to teach me, been in special ed when i didn’t really need it, or tbh probably both.

      I do wish I’d gotten more opportunities to socialize as a kid, but at most points in my childhood school would’ve been hell, so Idk if that would’ve been better for me in the long run. I wound up going to public school part time for high school, which imo should be an option for everyone. I got to take some electives that would’ve been hard/impossible for my mom to teach me without having to sit through all the unnecessary shit you have to do in school. Banning homeschooling would be stupid, there’s other ways for kids to learn hot to socialize and a lot of shit the school just does a shit job of teaching from what I’ve seen and heard

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        Buddy no one is making fun of atheists 😂 i was very vocal about my atheism when the topic arose. The sad reality is that the vast majority of homeschooled kids are homeschooled because the school system is far too secular for the extremely religious. They wanna pump that religion in while they are young and make sure no one is there to second guess the bs they feed their own kids. Every kid I know that was homeschooled was so because their parents were extremely religious. There’s no shame in being a atheist and it’s kinda hard to make fun of someone for not believing in something lol even if they try to it’s not like anything they could say could land on you.

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          Kids literally did make fun of me, and some even stopped being friends with me after learning I was an atheist. If you think nobody cares about that you probably grew up in a place that wasn’t as majorly religious as Utah or a lot of other US states. It may not matter to most people wherever you live, but a lot of people in a lot of places think less of atheists and treat them worse for it. Things seem better nowadays in some places, but at this point I’m afraid too many edgy right wing atheists were too obnoxious about stupid shit for society’s treatment of atheists to be taken seriously for a while. It’s still perfectly acceptable to mock someone for being an atheist, or say that we can’t appreciate nature or beauty or even have feelings, and if you say anything about it you’ll just be made fun of more.

          I know a shit ton of US homeschooling is for shitty religious reasons, Idk the exact numbers but I know lots of kids do get shitty educations and social lives being homeschooled. More should be done to make sure parents actually have to be qualified to be decent teachers who won’t indoctrinate their children with anti-science or bigoted ideologies while failing to teach them important things. But in a lot of places it’s the schools that are pushing that onto kids, and a lot of schools are otherwise unable to accommodate for every kid. I can’t support banning homeschooling anywhere that has those problems, and even then it’s probably the best way for some kids to learn, assuming their parents are good teachers

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      So, I reckon your parents didn’t solve the “how does a homeschooled child get properly socialized” issue?

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        No, not fully, but I was pretty active in our church growing up. That has its own issues but I definitely hung out with outer kids my own age, older and younger kids, old people, and people with mental and physical disabilities multiple hours a day multiple days a week.

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          Yeah, I’d assume that’s the main socialization for most homeschooled kids in the US, but that’s like a whole other can of worms. Though I guess not every church is full of raging fundamentalists and/or rapists.