• Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Are you a ‘real leftist’ who would rather attack liberals for not being not left enough before attacking conservatives?

    Or are you a right wing plant here to sow political division among the American left?

    Horseshoe theory strikes again.

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      Are you a ‘real leftist’ who would rather attack liberals for not being not left enough before attacking conservatives?

      Yes. That’s what leftists do. Haven’t you been paying attention?

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      Liberalism is a conservative ideology. There is no “left enough” as they are not leftists. This is not a secret. Read theory.

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        Liberalism is a stepping stone to socialism.

        You cannot institute change by expecting people to radically change their ideologies overnight. It happens bit by bit, through actionable steps, not condescension and anger.

        Ask yourself this, do you truly want people to become more progressive, or do you just want to feel morally superior by yelling at people who don’t meet your standards?

        American liberals are just trying to do the bare minimum of fighting fascism, and even that is a monumental task. Political infighting in the American left only helps conservatives. By the time you are done yelling at liberals, there will no longer be a country that has any shot at adopting ‘real leftist’ ideologies.

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          An ideology that is pro-capitalism cannot be a stepping stone toward socialism. That doesn’t make any sense, and Liberals have literally opposed socialism at every step. Please read theory. This has already been debated and settled a long time ago. Socialism is only achieved by a violent overthrow of the ruling class. A class that liberalism is designed to protect.

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            It’s so easy to romanticize the ‘violent overthrow of the ruling class’ as if social collapse doesn’t bring upon starvation, armed conflict, destitution, and mass instability.

            Please stop with the armchair progressivism. The vast majority of American liberals aren’t protecting the ruling class, they’re working three jobs to feed a family for four while people like you treat them like a moral failure for making a realistic attempt against deep rooted conservatism.

            How about you treat liberals like humans who have kids, family, and friends to think about, and not objects of sacrifice in your grandiose ‘theories’ that conveniently leaves out the mass casualties involved in the process?