• x00z@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    People tend to forget that NATO is a defensive pact and even though it’s extremely strong, it doesn’t want a war because in a war there’s losses for everybody.

    NATO is like the adult in the room that doesn’t want to escalate further.

    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      That also capitulates to Russias acts of war like sabotaging critical infrastructure (undersea cables), being organized crimes “cyber warfare as a service”, waging global psychological warfare, financing fascism, murdering people with chemical and biological weapons.

      I am not convinced NATO would ever actually do anything, because they’ve let every act of war slide. Probably just launch nukes if Russia does…

      • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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        Russia’s infrastructure is coming down around their ears, they’ve been humiliated, their global influence (non-propaganda) has been reduced to nearly nothing and they’re making desperate deals with north korea to maintain the semblance of their army, and europe is rearming.

        And that’s without NATO getting brought in directly. I know it’s not glamorous, but there is huge investment of resources and material in the Ukraine conflict, so much so that the conceit you’ve presented is bordering on being dishonest. Boots on ground no, but Ukraine sure as hell isn’t fighting this alone.

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          This is true, but still: Ukraine is losing ground and we, the NATO member states and Europe, don’t do enough to help them defend themselves and us by extension.

    • Auli@lemmy.ca
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      9 days ago

      So useless then just like the league of nations. And look where their inactivity ended up.

    • we is doomed!@lemmy.world
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      NATO is like the adult in the room that doesn’t want to escalate further.

      That’s bullshit, they’re a toddler hiding behind closed eyes going “la la la” and hoping “the bad man” goes away.

      The EU is already at war with Russia.