Its funny you think trump cares at all. He has continuously risked confrontation with every major nation at the drop of a hat all this time. Why would this be any different from any other day that ends with a “y” for the us administration?

this would pressure Trump to agree…

HA!

HA! I SAY! HA!

Trump!? Pressured to do anything? Where the fuck have you been? This is the same trump that is crashing the world order and economy and doubling down on every stupid thing they do. Remember when they put punishing tariffs on an uninhabited island? Remember when they raised them later?

Urgh, the us can’t even lose properly

Its not the rocket part that makes it take that shape, its the long range turbofan jet engine that causes it to look like that. The V1 used a pulse engine but really the same issue in design. You have an engine that requires an intake (unlike most rockets) and ether you slap it on top (like the Flamingo or V1 or Tu-141) or build the body around it, causing cost increases and issues with warhead placement (like the Tomahawk)

That’s one example, yes. My point is we like to invent new ways to call out the same shit. Vibe coded projects that get abandoned within half a year are just another example of vaporware, just a new take on the concept.

And that’s a fine use, but to also use them in measuring Ukrainian technical development is still odd.

Vaporware is never not a thing.

Maybe just try mixing it up a bit, most jet powered cruse missiles end up looking like a V1 (that itself was not a new layout) for one example. You can vary your references by pointing to non nazi examples, not all the time but throw in an alternative at least some time. It is not like the nazi’s even invented much, like the terror strikes to London where tried in ww1 for another example. They where kinda shit after all and its just weird to use them like a measuring stick to everything.

I mean sure? But why also talk about Ukraine in the nazi context? Its not even really wrong, just weird.

Why are all your call backs to nazis?

Not today’s 10 year olds.

Is it just antacid in sauce form? Like the mild has no spice, you can drink the stuff. How do you even get this level of anti spice?

And also not a democracy

Welp, this will be fun to watch.

Ok, I’ll throw you a softball. Let’s say there’s a corporation that wants to use your labor, but doesn’t want to pay you. They buy up all the housing in the area, and all the stores, and they refuse to allow you to buy food or shelter unless you give them your labor, and they’ll give you a credit that you can only use at their stores. That’s bad, right? The government should be there to protect the people from this exploitation, right? If not, the people end up with no freedom.

The company store is small back (called loyalty programs), all this is again happening it stopped before due to some very violent incidents and the political fallout forcing legal change. Like most of the government backed rights given. You are discribing the difference between a well run nation (where this shit gets regulated due to the betterment of the state) and the us. Its not the government’s job to protect its people from themselves, but to govern a nation towards a better future while keeping outside powers in check. It can look like the government is protecting people, but having that mindset is how you get a police state (see america).

We both agree that regulation is needed, but we don’t agree on why and the clear limits that have been crossed. Automobiles are not safer, in fact there are more “accidents” then ever due to blinding lights, over reliance on automation/sensors and limited visibility. What the new standards have done is make crashes more survivable, basicly the idea of fuck you I got mine in large metal and plastic form.

The more people just roll over and take it the more of a circus we all live in. Clown world is going strong just on the inertia of inaction. Americans used to stand up against things they did not agree with, it was called civil disobedience (and more) and got shit done. Now the people of the states get new horrors a dystopian novel would have a hard time coming up with on the regular and they treat it as if its some other peoples issue.

Regulating a car to spy and make actions based on that spying is not a valid regulation outside of a nightmare.

And no it is not the government’s role is to protect people from harm, this is “think of the children” sort of shit that leads to bad law. Ether we are responsible for our actions or are under control. I don’t want to share the road with these new vehicles but apparently have no say, this nonsense is why we all get to live in clown world.

The single greatest safety invention in automobiles by reduced death and injury was the collapsible steering column, everything since has had diminishing returns. In the last 10 years we have seen auto accidents increase (lots of pedestrian strikes) due to stupid new vehicle design. Yet we don’t see the demand that new stuff is pulled from the road, instead we see the demand for new rules putting more bad ideas in. This is and never had been about safety.

Or americans can grow a spine and stand up to this overreaching bullshit. Stating there is a law and nothing can be done is american capitulation. You ether roll over or fight this sort of stuff, but if you roll over you don’t get to sit on a high horse.

People have been making stuff since stuff was made, or do you think everything ever was made from a company’s factory? This “nothing can be done” shit has gotten to such a degree of putting the boot on your own neck that you are saying its not possible for people to make a motor vehicle without backing.

If people did make there own cars (or more likely use old frames) and did not put spy tech into their own stuff what’s the government’s recourse? Enforcement at this degree is not possible, hell you americans hardly have a rule of law left.

Then we build them ourselves. Capitulation is not inevitable.

I will not drive any combustion vehicle newer then 2008, and before people tell me that is too old its that or not drive. A line must be drawn, limits expressed and principals kept.

You shutting off is quite literally “putting your head in the sand”, but the thing is that is fine for things like a vacation or retreat. Here the idea is that you would control your head in the sand state continuously, effectively siloing your news to only things you want (unhealthy and dangerous) and making a lot of extra work (more stress) for you just to be less informed.